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fremsley
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Speakers? Surely not for broadcasting the Horst Wessel lied to us brits? A war crime if ever there was one (with the except of Gracie Fields' SAAALEEE!)

I'm a hero with coward's legs.

 
Posted : 12/03/2013 9:02 pm
Cheeky Chappy
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Fremsley wrote:

Speakers? Surely not for broadcasting the Horst Wessel lied to us brits?

The answer is no. They are for the ballet. :wink:

Hitler was a better dancer than Churchill, he was a better skater than Churchill . . .

 
Posted : 12/03/2013 9:28 pm
fremsley
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Hmmmm Danse Macabre?

I'm a hero with coward's legs.

 
Posted : 13/03/2013 9:33 pm
dadio
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more "Dance mother f@#$kr's" :lol:

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 13/03/2013 10:18 pm
dadio
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test fitted the new muzzle flash wiring harness system on the bren ,works well and will get a field test at "the last bullet" to see how well it hold's up and what effect it has on battery consumption.

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 14/03/2013 6:14 pm
dadio
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right so before i start the pistol grip and trigger guard i need to install the cocking handle, i milled a little into the receiver body to give it a guide and made up a couple of guide rails to sit one at the front and one at the back ,they allow the handle to be pulled back in a cocking action and will when finished there will be a spring let into the stock to give it return movement.




Steve we were talking about finish, well the next shot shows where i removed a blob of weld and re finished it chemically,its the area just forward and above the cocking handle, the colour look's nice but the finish is less mat, i need to give it another go over to take out the imperfection but it gives an idea of what i meant.bear in mind thatit was a flas photo that shines a bit more than real life.

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 16/03/2013 1:21 pm
Boshman
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Fantastic work Gavin as ever :good:

Just wanted to say that your cocking handle shouldn't have a return spring, on the Real Steel the handle is returned to the forward position by hand after cocking the bolt, there is no return spring mechanism!

“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942

 
Posted : 16/03/2013 3:12 pm
dadio
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Fantastic work Gavin as ever :good:

Just wanted to say that your cocking handle shouldn't have a return spring, on the Real Steel the handle is returned to the forward position by hand after cocking the bolt, there is no return spring mechanism!

cheers for the info :good: , i'll go with customer advice from Steve but he's all for it being as real as poss so will probably drop the spring idea.and of course i'll cry all night if i don't have to make it more complicated :giggle:

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 16/03/2013 3:28 pm
Cheeky Chappy
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Start crying babe!!! :wink:

We shall have to go with the real steel advice. Thanks Boshman. :good:

Steve.

Hitler was a better dancer than Churchill, he was a better skater than Churchill . . .

 
Posted : 16/03/2013 4:12 pm
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been tying up a few bits and pieces today,making a third rail for the cocking handle to make it more secure ,mounting the stock,cutting the stock to fit the mp3 player behind the gearbox, running the wiring through the outer barrel for the muzzle flash components,blacking the inner part of the muzzle ,cutting and fitting a drift pin into the rear sight ,fitting deans plugs to the motor wiring so it could be unplugged for strip down and fitting the micro switch for the flashing lights in the muzzle.i was going to use the cut off lever to trigger the muzzle flash unit but it would have been tricky so i decided that i would trigger it from the piston,there already was a slot in the side of the gearbox that was probably for a blowback system ,all i did was open it up a little so that a small micro switch fitted in the slot and is triggered at full cock, reason for using full cock was that it's the least likely place for it to stop leaving the lights on ,plus in real terms it will be impossible to tell if the flash coincides with the firing in real terms.i got it all together and was going to do a test video but it all took longer than expected and the micro switch shorted on the side if the gun body,no big deal ,it just needs a little material removing from inside the receiver to give it clearance ,but i just gave up at that point.

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 17/03/2013 8:34 pm
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just had a bit of a brainstorm ,i was going to use voltage regulators and resistors to give all the voltages i need ,that is 3v for the flashing led's ,7.2v for the smoke generator ,both coming from the main battery, then i realised that if i run it of lipo's then i can take feeds from the balance charging plug,each cell is 3.7v,perfect for the diodes with maybe just a small resistor, then use 2 cell's for 7.4v for the smoke generator with no messing about with anything complicated at all, and it will be 100% reliable :happydance: .

Don't forget LiPos don't like being out of balance by much.

 
Posted : 29/03/2013 1:46 am
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just had a bit of a brainstorm ,i was going to use voltage regulators and resistors to give all the voltages i need ,that is 3v for the flashing led's ,7.2v for the smoke generator ,both coming from the main battery, then i realised that if i run it of lipo's then i can take feeds from the balance charging plug,each cell is 3.7v,perfect for the diodes with maybe just a small resistor, then use 2 cell's for 7.4v for the smoke generator with no messing about with anything complicated at all, and it will be 100% reliable :happydance: .

Don't forget LiPos don't like being out of balance by much.

it still has the warning buzzer so i will know when any cell goes flat and the flashing diodes take only a small current draw.

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 29/03/2013 8:10 am
oddball
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Looking good mate!

Watch Vid
Free speech is expensive these days!

 
Posted : 29/03/2013 10:58 am
dadio
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started the last difficult bit, the pistol grip and trigger guard assembly.this part is made of 3mm mild steel that has been slightly profiled on the mill for comfort, its only 3mm wider than the motor, 2 of those mm's are the thickness of the sheet steel side panels that will be welded in flush ,leaving 1mm wiggle room for the motor.it don't look much but it was quite tricky to form the shape and involved a lot of heating and bending, it's still full width at the trigger guard but will be narrowed in that area a little later and the sides sculpted in to mach ,it will never be perfect because it has to fit the motor inside but hopefully it wont look too clumsy or blocky.

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 09/04/2013 7:00 pm
Cheeky Chappy
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Gav. It's looking good already. :good:

Hitler was a better dancer than Churchill, he was a better skater than Churchill . . .

 
Posted : 09/04/2013 9:45 pm
dadio
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got one side of the grip made and welded on ,gives a better idea of how it will look.



armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 11/04/2013 4:45 pm
Boshman
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Fantastic workmanship as ever Gavin :good:

One potential fly in the ointment though, if you want to be able to fit a real-steel sling, then the bottom of the pistol grip will need to be real-steel width as that's where the sling connects.

On mine I used the standard gripstick and fabricated two 2mm aluminum plates to build up the width just around the grip and the motor. The trigger section and bottom of the gripstick I kept standard width. I had to swap out the AK47 motor cage for a G36 one as its narrower, still a very tight fit and I have to remove the gripstick to take the gearbox out.

I also used the larger G36 trigger as the AK one came up way too short.

Been trying to dig out some pictures of the side plates but can only find this one of the gripstick without them yet fitted.
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“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942

 
Posted : 12/04/2013 10:01 am
dadio
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it is all steel construction and the surround is 3mm thick although the sides are only 1mm, i recon if i fit a steel sleve inside then it should be strong enough for sling mounting however as you say it will be wider,but i have the sling already and can modify it to fit.i will have the same deal with the trigger and am going to fabricate an extension that should look like the real one as it was pressed steel rather than solid.

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 12/04/2013 4:06 pm
dadio
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got the other side welded on today and the inside part around the trigger,thinking of ways to hold the wood grips in the mill to thin them down ,i think i should be able to take 2-3mm off each one so will bring the width down by 4-6mm,it should help the grip feel less bulky.also thinking of reducing the thickness at the base of the grip where the sling mount fits, as Boshman said it's too wide for the sling mount but it's a hell of a lot of work so hmm.


armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 13/04/2013 6:08 pm
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Loving it mate :good:
thanks for posting all the pics for us to drool over! :happyclap:

 
Posted : 21/04/2013 8:33 pm
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