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Some notes on the SRC MP40

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Just got mine. It's beautiful. Great trades and great finish. The EBB is very entertaining. The stock is very solid. And nothing wobbles.

Some notes to future owners:
1) It comes weak OTB at 280-290 fps. I suggest upgrading the spring to a max of M125 or PDI 190%. The gearbox looks sturdy enough but it is PROPRIETARY and the back (where the spring guide rests) looks a little fragile. So personally i wouldn't go past an SP/M120.

2) I'm not sure if the steel is painted or if it's carbon blackened. I saw some spots of rust so i'd suggest going over it with WD40 and a rag before storage

3) I tried loading an AGM mP40 mag with the feed hole in front (instead of at the back of the mag for the AGM) and, while it doesn't lock in place, it fed! I think with some minor modding, AGM MP40 mags will fit the SRC.

The gearbox is relatively well designed, with general reinforcements to the front of the gearbox. Of particular note is the cylinder window cut out: It's tapered in front instead of the usual rectangle. This will make the gearbox more resistant to cracking at the window (which is where cracks usually occur). There is a little gap on top of the gearbox though and the sliding clip seen on the AGM MP40 gearbox is absent. I don't know if this will affect the durability of the gearbox. But the durability of the version 3 gearbox (of which this is a derivative) is commonly attributed to this sliding clip... The gearbox seams thicker and more robust than usual, but i don't know if it's just because of the paint finish.

Inside, the internals are well greased. Of note is the piston. It has protrusions that are essential to the EBB function of the gun. If ever the piston breaks and you need to replace it, i'm not sure is you can get a piston with these same protrusions. So you might lose the EBB function.

I'm a little worried about the hop chamber. It is proprietary, but made of brass so it should last. The thing i'm worried about is when i tried to turn the hop wheel all the way "ON" and looked through the barrel, i couldn't see the nub protruding into the barrel. I have yet to test this in the field so i don't know if the hop is effective. Also, i tried putting an M120 spring and i was only getting FPS readings of 365-375. With this spring i was expecting the FPS to be around 400. I suspect a leak in the hop mechanism.

Well, i wasn't getting any hop as i feared.

I had to disassemble it to get to the hop chamber. Disassembly is similar to but not the same as in the AGM MP40.

First, separate the upper and lower receiver as per instructions.

Next, remove these two hex screws:

Now you can slide the barrel assembly off the receiver...only, it won't slide. It's so tight that you'll have to carefully hammer it off, with inevitable scratches to the sling mount. Once you slide the barrel assembly off (and after you start breathing again), you disassemble the barrel assembly as you would an AGM: unscrew the barrel nut, slide off the front sight assembly. The receiver nut is very tight and you will need to use a wrench to unscrew it. Once it's off, you'll need to unscrew the set screw on the side.

After pulling the outer barrel off, you will notice a spring. This helps push the hop assembly in place. Now here was the part where i was stumped for a while. I thought the hop assembly was just plain stuck and i tried to gently hammer it out without success. Then i noticed that you had to twist the hop assembly to get it out.

You're left with this:

It is interesting that SRC had integrated a metal hop arm with an SCS-like hop nub, molded as one piece. The SCS is the best hop nub out there and it was nice of SRC to incorporate this in the design. My only concern is that, because it's made of metal, it might damage the hop rubber. I'll just replace the nub with one from a G36 hop chamber if and when it does.

Apparently, mine came with the barrel hop window not aligned with the hop arm. This is due to the very loose barrel lock plastic c-clip. After some repositioning and teflon tape, i got the barrel and hop working great. I hope the metal hop nub doesn't shorten the life of my hop rubber though.

 
Posted : 24/01/2011 12:32 pm
 Yith
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Apparently, mine came with the barrel hop window not aligned with the hop arm. This is due to the very loose barrel lock plastic c-clip.

Perhaps the misalignment occurred when the barrel was twisted and put in? I guess it'd be very easy to muck that up!

Anyway, sounds like an impressive gun. If a bit of a pain to maintain!

 
Posted : 24/01/2011 12:55 pm
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PDI 190%? - thats serious overkill. I've used PDI springs for years, and have yet to need anything more than a 130%.

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Posted : 24/01/2011 1:58 pm
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PDI 190%? - thats serious overkill. I've used PDI springs for years, and have yet to need anything more than a 130%.

Don't forget jimmiroquai isn't in the UK.

 
Posted : 24/01/2011 6:19 pm
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Yeah, i'd love to play with the limits you guys have. Over here, 350fps is the norm for pistols! and over 400 for AEGs...for CQB! That's why we all have to wear full face masks. I'd love to play a game wearing only shooting glasses like you guys but...i'm too pretty to have my face bashed in by 450-500 fps bbs. :)

But back to the SRC MP40, is 290 considered weak over there? If it is, an M110 or M120 or PDI130% will be perfect as well.

 
Posted : 24/01/2011 11:32 pm
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290fps would be the high side of normal for a stock TM gun. Some people leave them stock as they'll often out-range 320+ Chinese AEGs.

 
Posted : 24/01/2011 11:59 pm
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Good point No1_sonuk, but even then, back in the day when I used to do stupid things with Airsoft guns, a PDI 170% would normally get me to 450FPS (as i said, "stupid things" :lol: )

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Posted : 25/01/2011 12:32 am
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Some more notes on the SRC MP40:

There is some flex in the rear of the upper receiver. In the AGM, the upper receiver is a bit more secured because it is one piece at the back. In the SRC, the back is split to accommodate the blowback feature. The top-rear of the upper receiver isn't really resting on anything hence the vertical wobble. The problem with this is that the whole gun is basically held together by the alloy "tongue" which is locked underneath by the disassembly knob.

I've fixed the top flex. I just replaced the retaining screw of the rear "cup" with a longer one wrapped in electric tape. The upper receiver slides in between the rear cup and this longer screw for added support. No more flexing. Simple fix.

 
Posted : 29/01/2011 3:53 pm
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Nice fix, Would use that on my agm but the battery is tight already!

 
Posted : 30/01/2011 6:20 pm
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The build quality of the AGM is starting to get on my nerves over time. So I'm thinking of changing over to SRC. Hi caps are more suitable at the site I play at anyway. But I've a few questions before I decide.

What kind of range did you get with this after you fixed the hop unit compared to the AGM MP40.

I'm also intersted to know if you noticed any magazine wobble and whether the hi cap magazines feed ok?

Do the SRC magazines still have the magazine winder wheel sitting more or less flush with the bottom of the magazine, and if so is this a problem?

Whats your take on EBB function? Does it noticeably reduce the charge of the battery?

Thanks
Greg

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Posted : 09/03/2011 8:55 am
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i need some help guys got a second hand mp40 it was cronoing at 270-280 fps but noticed the hop window was mis alingned took it apart and changed the hop rubber as it was torn it now only cronos in at 243fps tops any ideas why ?

 
Posted : 05/10/2011 9:00 am
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pretty mutch gotta be the hop rubber not in all the way,sometimes when you push the barrel and rubber back into the hop chamber the rubber slides back down the barrel a bit so you lose the seal.try stripping it again and putting some silicone lube on the outside of the rubber to help it slide in,you should just be able to see it verry slightly proud when looking through the bb feed hole,if you cant see it then chances are its slipped back down the barrel.sometimes if the fit is tight a slight twisting pushing action helps get it in.

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Posted : 05/10/2011 5:28 pm
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